Sample Copyright Clearing

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Anyone know anything about copyright clearing of samples? How long does it take and what are the penalties for ignoring it? I know that early jungle used to turn its nose up at copyright clearing and that there is a grey area where if you reproduce a sample, but it's not the original material, it's OK.

Anyone got any clear facts about this?
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the success of the records has a great deal to do with it......

if you sample somethin and are silly enough to let it be easily recognisable even in its new context, then you would be openin yourself up to copyright issues.

but its unlikely that you would experience any repercussions based on the average d&b record sales figures, but if your tune was an extraordinary (in d&b terms) success then perhaps yeh......

i dont release records yet, so im not the best qualified to talk about that, but thats my understanding anyway

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basically, you are ok unless the person/label you sampled gets to hear your tune and can be arsed to do anything about it.

a small dnb tune which sells a couple of thousand copies will have disappeared long before most label execs and artists will get to hear it (depending on who you're sampling i suppose). even if they do find out it would probably not be worth their whiole to track you down and sue you just to bakrupt the company and then never properly recouperate costs. a lot of hassle for not much gain.

but, if your track gets big then it's naother story.....if you're selling loads then it might be wise to try and get some sort of sample clearance sorted out. don't expect it to be cheap though as labels will most likely ask for silly money.

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haste Wrote:a small dnb tune which sells a couple of thousand


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you'll be lucky...........

kenny ken sells 500 these days!!!
Blue Wrote:
haste Wrote:a small dnb tune which sells a couple of thousand


Bogroll

you'll be lucky...........

kenny ken sells 500 these days!!!

fecking hell.. i should feel ok that nv002 did nearly 2.5k then?!?!?!
Formula Inc. Wrote:
Blue Wrote:
haste Wrote:a small dnb tune which sells a couple of thousand


Bogroll

you'll be lucky...........

kenny ken sells 500 these days!!!

fecking hell.. i should feel ok that nv002 did nearly 2.5k then?!?!?!

deffo mate!!
who was distributing?
am i correct that you guys are currently without a deal?
we need to talkypoos anyway man.
when ya coming over lad?

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Blue Wrote:you'll be lucky...........

kenny ken sells 500 these days!!!
what i meant was "a small dnb tune which sells up to a couple of thousand"

no comment on the fact that kenny ken only sells 500 :slash
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rip rip rip n dont get caught.
blue Wrote:
formula inc. Wrote:
blue Wrote:
haste Wrote:a small dnb tune which sells a couple of thousand


Bogroll

you'll be lucky...........

kenny ken sells 500 these days!!!

fecking hell.. i should feel ok that nv002 did nearly 2.5k then?!?!?!

deffo mate!!
who was distributing?
am i correct that you guys are currently without a deal?
we need to talkypoos anyway man.
when ya coming over lad?

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mate.. it's hellish... we wigned to epicentre like 7 months ago... to release 6 12's in a year.. like thats happened... the thing that gets me down the most is that i feel like i've let matt(rick) and a few other people down in a big way...

but also i've fallen in to that trap of stifling my own creativity to try and be more popular by adjusting what i love to suit the mainstream... which is rather crappy.... i realised now to keep with what i like and love..

in all honesty i'm not suprized that we're finding it hard to get work with other distributors with the high level of quality music out there... but on the otherside it kinda annoys me to see certain tracks shift bucketfulls of units... eek!

yeah man.. i need to pass my test then i can get over musch easier!!

what i may do is get linus to drive me over soon! if he's cool with that Smile

bohhh!
Most labels contracts will contain a clause that states that the artist is libel for any samples that have not been cleared, the label will no doubt help you to get clearance...which isn't as hard as you may think, most just want a credit on the label copy or a cut on the publishing income...if you don't tell the label, then your heading for all sorts of trouble later down the line.

One of the biggest assets a Artist/Label has is it's catalogue and although it may only shift a couple of thousand units on the initial press, there is always the question of licensing out a track to a third party for compilations and what not and this is where the profile of the track is raised.

That said if the sample is obscure the you may be alright, but if you get caught out the prosecuting Label/Publishing Company can basically name their price...be afraid, be very afraid
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