scart ridge Wrote:dividing and building barriers is useful, but i do it in a tentative sense; what's built up today should be chopped down tomorrow, because they reflect a world that's always in flux.
what's the hurry? are you afraid of that you may grow too fond of the barrier (don't see nothing wrong with this kind of attachment, as long as your emotions aren't the one who's running you!), or that the barrier might fall in before you can pull it down yourself? sounds like unnecessary hastiness to me; it's not like you'll suddenly forget what the world is like!
i'm not sure how important a piece i have just grabbed, but this image of obsession about contemporariness i've got seems very limiting. again, it's as if you're not willing to fully get into it.
scart ridge Wrote:the two are very much mutually exclusive if you compare them as existing in the same domain; however, since i see one domain as the reflection of the other, they're exactly the same tool, 'flipped' according to which domain we're dealing with. they both deal with the problem of subverting fear.
i think i understand this analogy, but it sounds a bit impractical to me, like using old netscape for a browser but whatever, fair play :d
scart ridge Wrote:intellectual fear is being intimidated by an idea because of who it's coming from; by wielding the belief that everything is equally worthless shit, you can chop down all the status and credibility spin that surrounds everybody's beliefs every time they sell them (myself included - don't believe your own belief system any more than you believe anybody else's bs), and try to see the idea more objectively. it's an ongoing fight, not an instant win.
i understand the use of this type of excorcism, but i don't understand why you even need to emphatize other ppl's reaction this much; from one perspective this even seems like an inaccurate technique.
in roughly said about 98% cases of rationalized fear the fear itself has nothing to do with these adopted reasons, but is actually an irrational fear, something so deep and distressing that the ego (that in any way shouldn't be the driving force!) is making up other, usually external rationalizations for the fear so that it becomes easier to handle. on this case the essential dialogue the person is imaginarily going with other ppl really has
nothing to do with other ppl, it's all in the head and the imagined persons arguing are actualy just different parts of the ego clashing together! tail shouldn't wag the dog..
there is no instant win true, there is no instant anything, but a something more final than an evergoing struggle can be achieved with certain, suitable techniques.
scart ridge Wrote:'actual' fear is being intimidated by the tangible consequences of putting an idea into action; by wielding the belief that i should be doing everything i want to do, on one hand, i'm doing more of what i want to do, and on the other hand, it gets me ready to stand up for my right to do it in case i have to face the consequences. again, an ongoing fight, not an instant win.
there's nothing that can be done about erasing fear, but it can be overcomed. i'll quote some castaneda later, i summarized this quite neatly.
scart ridge Wrote:believe that everything is worthless shit, and law becomes the only form of tangible consequence. that's not to remove people's feelings from the equation, but quite the opposite; rather, it removes the intellectual abstraction of "other people's feelings" from the equation, so you have to look them in the eyes and deal with them on the level of a human connection.
when you decide to raise above others, you don't have to keep on telling this. if it is your will to treat others like ants when necessary, so it shall be, and from that on you could concentrate more on yourself.
wizard: if you want to reach my interest you'll have to do a bit better than that.
and just when have i been "over analyzing" you?
can't remember doing that, can't remember even talking to you much really! honestly, this is not some "i'm sorry, who are you again?" bullshit which'd imply that i actually wanted to further this beef you're giving me, i really don't remember doing any of that!
scart ridge Wrote:i have a sneaking suspicion that the reason people like erbanta and dak are picking e-fights with me nowadays is that i come from that exact same place and they used to identify with my approach, so to watch me come to grips with my inner asshole probably rubs them totally the wrong way
i'm only here because of the fun of it (and possible useful data), don't think so damn much of yourself since i haven't forgot to think of you as a project! it's true that years ago you made sense, but from that on you've only started to make even more sense.