The old something from nothing thingy
#1

So then, to open up some discussion;

How do you make that last snare drum/cymbal as long as it should be, even though it's way too short?

Discuss. Grin
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#2

you first Teef
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#3

No

after you lot, i insist. :d
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#4

well i'll start you feckers off then...

interesting results can be had using a layered copy of said sound compressed in such a way to elongate the sound Wink

or sometimes maybe layer with a different sound.

or sometimes layer with a verb'd copy.

or any combination of above.
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#5

Compression wouldn't elongate it though Baffled It would just increase the sustain, no?

Am I missing something?
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#6

increase sustain - hence body of sound.
im talking extreme compression here - can only work when layering with uncompressed sound, and will sound much better with certain compressors than others - 1176 is great for it.
then put it through a very thick reverb, and shape the tail as you see fit until it sounds natural.
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#7

Or reverb (not quite so thick) first and then compression.

oh and..John Bonham hitting the drums

and a stairwell...

...oops got distracted
I know nothing.
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#8

timestretching by a very small amount lots of times with a tiny tiny amount of revebr to mask any artifacts and an envelope to shape

that is if you dont want it to go all mmmmmaaaaatttriiiiixxxxxx
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#9

go old school and decrease the pitch of your break

if its got a decent tail at all you can use a long attack envelope to kill the main peak but keep a tail that kind of fades in and then play that delayed a bit

or the old classic set it to a ping pong loop
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#10

Sometimes you can get away with taking the snare, reversing it, fading out that reversed snare and then pasting that back on to the original snare.

If you are careful and use multiple fades or and reverb this is sometimes a useful approach.

Alternatively you can use envelopes in the sampler.
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#11

could it be done using delays? here it "pop" tunes recently... Baffled
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#12

little ping pong or crossfade loop
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#13

theres no clean way of doing it but either ping pong loop, starting about midway of the sample with decay and sustain set right or overlay with new cymbal works for me
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#14

jaysus! Icon_eek
i barely have time to write a tune these days, never mind getting the time to construct kits like this.

methinks i need to take some time off work soon and get into some serious programming.

what's the purpose of streatching a snare in this manner? Chin
i'm not quite sure why you'd want to do that in the first place?
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#15

Realism mate.

When you slice a hit, say a cymbal, you get a sharp ending, totally unlike a real cymbal which decyas. We're talking about how to make that cymbal crash (yeah, the amen one in all likelihood Lol ) last longer/sound more natural Smile

I have also just realised that I haven't actually posted my methods, although most of them have been covered already Smile
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#16

aaaaaaaaaah....
makes perfect sense!! Yes


methinks i'm just not with it today. [Image: eyemouth.gif]
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#17

i'm working with "get into something" from scratch right now....


i'm in DIRE need of this stuff! Hahaha


that's a TRICKY-ass break, it is!
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creative!" 
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dodz Wrote:i'm working with "get into something" from scratch right now....


i'm in DIRE need of this stuff! Hahaha


that's a TRICKY-ass break, it is!

Arnt they all.....arnt they all... Teef
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markgabba Wrote:
dodz Wrote:i'm working with "get into something" from scratch right now....


i'm in DIRE need of this stuff! Hahaha


that's a TRICKY-ass break, it is!

Arnt they all.....arnt they all... Teef


NO! Teef


some are easy as fuck compared to this one.
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creative!" 
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#20

sort me out that break then doderico Bigstick
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macc Wrote:sort me out that break then doderico Bigstick



ay, ay cap'n!
Making the simple complicated is commonplace; making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creative!" 
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