yamaha NS10

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i understand these are the industry standard blah blah...but anyone ever use one of these ditchpigs?

it has like a 7dB accent at 1500hz...

you think they are at all useful given today's plethora of direct field monitor designs?

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well if you can make it sound good on ns10s, it'll sound good anywhere. so i've heard.

my car stereo is my version of ns10s haha.
the studio we are recording our album in have ns10's and the engineer mixes on them really quietly, seems really good for getting good eq and balance Xyxthumbs
I really like them Smile Brutally honest in the midrange (bit wanky elsewhere though Grin )

+7dB at 1500Hz? Baffled
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i was reading bout them the other day.

apparently they were never conceived as monitors, but bob clearmountain wanted some cheap shite hifi speakers to check mixes on and his lackey bought NS10s. word got out that he had some so everyone hopped on the bob bandwagon. yamaha saw the possibility and lo they became "professional studio monitors".

or maybe thats all internet rubbish. who knows.

i guess they'd be very useful as a second pair of monitors when you already have some that you know and love. but as the only pair might their weird freq response not be problematic?

i've always preferred wanking to studio monitors anyway.
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the reason theyre meant to be good is a limited frequency response, so youre confused by extreme bass and treble and can concentrate on the mid range (MOST MUSIC AND VOCALS IN POP TYPE MUSIC ETC) oops and b they are a closed box (infinite baffle) which have a much better transient response than ported designs, which use the port to lower the frequnecy range.

apparently a set of 'grot boxes' or even just one (do a quiet mix in mono on one speaker and it shold in theory sound great on anything) are highly recommended, Auratones used to be popular for this and then the ns10s became ubiquitous. There was a cool looking modern grot boxes pyramids ..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar04/ar...yramid.htm

Quote:The reason why the Auratone and the NS10 have survived the test of time, and become indispensable tools to the majority of accomplished mixing engineers, is all to do with their skewed frequency response, lack of LF resonances, very low distortion and remarkably accurate transient response behaviour — all of which are inherent qualities of infinite baffle designs using small, responsive drivers. In fact, the Auratone is the more precise of the two models mentioned, simply because it employs a single driver — the NS10s two-way design allows greater volume and dynamic range, but has a deleterious effect on the transient response!
because i don't drive..i'm gonna get a scrapped car body into the studio and outfit it with a traditional car stereo..so i can test my mixes on it ha..

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magdusia Wrote:I just can't take it...omg omg...I just..I just can't...
As far as I know NS10s were/are so ubiquitious because Yamaha gave them away for free to studios when they came out (and the Clearmountain hype, of course).
They are still in use because every professional engineer knows exactly how they sound, not because they can do anything that other cheap monitors couldn't.
Or at least that's what I was told.
Paradigm X Wrote:the reason theyre meant to be good is a limited frequency response, so youre confused by extreme bass and treble and can concentrate on the mid range (MOST MUSIC AND VOCALS IN POP TYPE MUSIC ETC) oops and b they are a closed box (infinite baffle) which have a much better transient response than ported designs, which use the port to lower the frequnecy range.

apparently a set of 'grot boxes' or even just one (do a quiet mix in mono on one speaker and it shold in theory sound great on anything) are highly recommended, Auratones used to be popular for this and then the ns10s became ubiquitous. There was a cool looking modern grot boxes pyramids ..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar04/ar...yramid.htm

Quote:The reason why the Auratone and the NS10 have survived the test of time, and become indispensable tools to the majority of accomplished mixing engineers, is all to do with their skewed frequency response, lack of LF resonances, very low distortion and remarkably accurate transient response behaviour — all of which are inherent qualities of infinite baffle designs using small, responsive drivers. In fact, the Auratone is the more precise of the two models mentioned, simply because it employs a single driver — the NS10s two-way design allows greater volume and dynamic range, but has a deleterious effect on the transient response!

They are not infinite baffle.

Infinite baffle would mean that they do not have an enclosure at all, (such as a speaker hung from a car parcel shelf) which they do.

Sorry for the pedantry.

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