Short Circuit's new interface

[denaris]

BTW on the subject of OSX, Aleksey contacted me the other day to try some OSX betas

Getting my Mac later, so this is good news as I really want to try this out.

[Macc]

Aleksey, as in, Voxengo's Alexsey, Ben? Or is claes' actual name Aleksey?

I could be totally wrong here, but I don't think there's any VST samplers that do that. I believe they output at the sample rate dictated by SX.

The main question is; why the balls are you running at 48kHz?

ok, ill have to put up with that then.

@ the 48k thing.. why not.. it sounds better than 44k and i think 96 is a little too much... plus i only have a small hd and cant affor the space for 96k bounce outs
*waits for some increadably long winded technical explanation on why he shouldnt be running at 48k*

[Macc]

@ the 48k thing.. why not.. it sounds better than 44k

Sorry man, but

What soundcard you using?

think 96 is a little too much... plus i only have a small hd and cant affor the space for 96k bounce outs

Absolutely

for some increadably long winded technical explanation on why he shouldnt be running at 48k*

You only have to answer one question - what medium are you most likely to end up on?

echo indigo.. probly not the greatest d/a's (a/ds dont count, i never record anything live)
and yeah true true, mp3 and cd.. wax if im ever lucky.. i still figure that recording at the best quality you can afford is gonna be worth it.. even if it is just a notch above the norm

[Macc]

Here it is in the briefest possible way:

There's no point doing anything at a higher sample rate than your destination media.

A CD is 16-bit, 44.1kHz (as are most mp3's).

Extra bit depth (the vertical axis of your waveform) can to some extent be preserved - if you make stuff at 24-bit and use dither correctly at the very end before going to CD, you can get an apparent bit depth of summink like 19-20 bits on a 16-bit CD. Crafty.

There is no analgous process for sample rate (x-axis) conversions. If you are going to CD and do everything at 88.2kHz, when it comes to downsampling to 44.1kHz for the CD, essentially all you do is throw every other sample away, end of story (albeit with an ultra sharp anti aliasing low pass filter, but don't worry about that for now). So when you do things at 48kHz that are ending up as 44.1 CD/MP3 files etc, those extra 39000 samples per second are just going to get slung in the bin.

Besides which, if you can hear stuff between 22.05kHz and 24kHz then you can come and mix my tunes for me



BTW, the DA's on the Indigo ain't that bad at all For what it is, and the price, the quality is excellent.

I ain't trying to lecture you or whatever man, do what you like - but if space saving is an issue then you can save even more with no noticeable in the quality of your final result by working at 44.1

And your samples will play at the right pitch too

yup yup, im not as daft as i sound :P
Ive just always recorded @ 48k and probly should go down to 44.1.

and no... i cant hear much over 18k i bet... the top end of my hearing is fscked ..just checkout my mix downs.. the top end is always bumped right up to where i think it sounds shiney, just deafens everybody else when played out loud

[Macc]

Just trying to help, I don't mean to patronise... I dunno what you know and what you don't

nah its cool man, i appreciate the comments and advice

incidentley, i got a 2:1 in music tech from hertforshire uni.. worth absolutly fuck all looking back now , i learnt most of the stuff i know from college where i took a nat-diploma in popular music, it was very production orientated though

[Macc]

And there's me telling you all that

nae drama man, much aprecciated none the less. nice of you just to take the time out to write all that

sc is kack

^^

[Macc]

@ Mark

short circuit is so much better to use and easier than anything else

[Macc]

I wish he'd finish sc2, but he works for ableton now innit and ain't got much time

you're joking...

so sc2 isn't and mightn't be finished???

[Macc]

It will be, I don't doubt that.

I've met the bloke and had a drink and a chat with him, and he's on the ball. But the last thing you want to do after sitting programming music software all day is..... sit and program music software

Last I heard he was working on another concept - pooossssssibly, just posssssibly, the result of our geeky chat.... If it is then

Last I heard he was working on another concept - pooossssssibly, just posssssibly, the result of our geeky chat.... If it is then

geeky chat with you? obviously gonna be something with a midicontroller which needs anal insertion then

Hope it's da autobeatchoppinmachinefromhell!! isit?

[Macc]

Well we discussed multiband transient detection... ie not JUST level or rate of level change dependent, so possibly.

It would be niiiice

Bump! for fada

well we discussed multiband transient detection... ie not just level or rate of level change dependent, so possibly.

it would be niiiice

short circuit 2 please.

I have my credit card at the ready

[Macc]

just an improved/enhanced/more flexible way of doing transient detection that we were discussing... i'm sure a man of your calibre can imagine the kind of thing we were talking about