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TIPS ON EQING?

#51
macc Wrote:avoid like the plague unless you really have to:

cubase's bogey-green channelwank eq.

that's the only one i use right now Hahaha , i'm sure there are much better ones as listed in this very thread. will look into these eqs soon if i can, being such a production newbie i'll stick to what iv'e got to an extent for the time being.
always end up thinking if people have too much to use it's counterproductive like a kid with too many toys, but now am starting to realise the fundamentals of eqing have to be decent in the first place, otherwise it's like pissing in the wind when your'e trying to make something easier, and more importantly good.

Xyxthumbs
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#52
searching for thoose URS plugins, using Waves atm, "searching" being the key word there Wink
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#53
waves r over-rated pieces of tripe!

plsu they dont work in logic 5.5.1 on th pc Mad

but i'm not mad at em as all the others mentioned on here wipe the floor with em & then some!

voxengo
urs
nomad
sonalksis
wizzoo verb

these are the names to look out for when on the look out for processing tools Yes
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
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#54
waves ssl is prety nice though Smile
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#55
that URS stuff still makes me burst in my trousers on the reg.


i'd like to see where this kind of stuff gets in say, 5 years! Icon_eek
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#56
it won't get much further in terms of sound,I mean these are already some very serious recreations, but what will become prevalent will be dedicated hardware 2 run certain software programs, a lot like waves/uad & powercore are doing at the mo.

Then companies can increase the detail in their programming without worrying about the results hogging up a whole processor on it's own & basically being too powerful for any standard pc to run.

convoluted reverbs could really bbenefit from this as their currently off limits to anyone who doesn't have a very high spec pc/mac at their disposal.
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
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#57
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:it won't get much further in terms of sound,I mean these are already some very serious recreations, but what will become prevalent will be dedicated hardware 2 run certain software programs, a lot like waves/uad & powercore are doing at the mo.

Turning full circle then. We're essentially going from hardware to software and then to now combining the two and kind of defeating the object of moving from hardware to software, or something being hardware specific as you're going to need both now.

However, I'm sure it'll mean ever more powerful packages.
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#58
Test ye not the power of mine package Zeus

Teef
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#59
Lol

I don't wanna laugh but I can't help it

Lol
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Chuck D
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#60
Turning full circle then. We're essentially going from hardware to software and then to now combining the two and kind of defeating the object of moving from hardware to software, or something being hardware specific as you're going to need both now.

However, I'm sure it'll mean ever more powerful packages.[/quote]

That's fine by me because I'm still a harware fan. I just can't live without my E-5000 and honestly alot of sequencing I do starts out on my RS7000, some tracks almost completely. I haven't been able to comfortably make the complete transition to software so a mixture of the two is perfect by me....
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#61
FFS!

I just read this thread after using Sound Forge EQ for the past few years. Ignorance is NOT bliss.

Baffled
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#62
Nameless Wrote:Sound Forge EQ

Hahaha
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#63
yeah,i'm afraid i fully endorse Macc's distain for soundforge's eq & other processing capabilities.

it's great for cutting & trimming your samples & converting to a million differnt formats though Smile
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Chuck D
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#64
eh...this is a not very interesting debate about which software EQ is better....any chance of yiz giving some EQing tips like at the start of the thread?

Teef

BTW i use the elemental audio EQs and logic 7's EQ.
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#65
breaker Wrote:any chance of yiz giving some eqing tips like at the start of the thread?

turn down the shit bits and then maybe turn up the good bits. Xyxthumbs Teef
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#66
Lol
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#67
In fact that's the best eq tutorial I've ever written Grin Icon_yippee Teef
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#68
:wow:
it all makes sense now..
macc: that was a mindblowing epiphany you just induced..big it up!
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#69
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:Lol

not sure if the cpu can handle it though...

EQ, layer, bounce down and re-import the bounced down file, therefore u not got bout 20 drum track with a plugin on, which in most cases will kill ur CPU Wink

sorry if that is stating the obvious, and is a pointless post, i mean its AO Icon_eek Smile

oh yes eq units....

URS Suite,
Sonalksis,
PSP Neon (3rd Choice)
Voxengo (pretty good)

the Sonalksis Compresor and compounder is the fukin greatest thing ever, i shit u not the CQ1 for teh win.
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#70
as everybody seems to be agreeing on cutting being superior to boosting:
what about exciters?

i can't seem to find a decent one. Sad2 sometimes just cutting everything below the high end with a lowshelf and then boosting the signal doesn't give you that freshness you need. so, why not using an exciter (in a *sooft* way)?

i've only tried a couple, but most sound harsh or even (since they're adding harmonic distortion, that is probably what they do) ... Teef

a friend told me he works with steinberg spectralizer, but only in lack of a better sounding one.

any suggestions? :d
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#71
Not an exciter fan meself.. But in a pinch I prefer BBE Sonic Maximiser to your normal exciter.

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#72
Yeah, I know. Roll Wink What's your method of "injecting" high end in old breaks? HarmoniEQ?

Icon123 I almost forgot about the Sonic Maximizer (since I didn't use it for ages and only used it for low end punch then) - I even almost forgot it actually IS an exciter. Oops

Will give it a shot though, I seem to remember it sounded good. Smile
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#73
bbe isn't an exciter No

it's a phase (re)alignment tool. lemme know if you need it explained, i just can't be bothered at the moment. Hahaha

i wouldn't use the low end knob ever ever ever, but the 'process' knob is really good. it's very very very very very easy to over do it though, very easy. really easy. like, easy easy.

you get used to it very soon, and then wonder why everything sounds very brittle. if you're going over 1 to 1.5 on the process knob you'd be wise to double check whether you really need that much.

imo.

personally, when it comes to 'injecting' high end, i use eq. exciters (put extremely simply) are just distortion really. you get high end, but it's harmonics of stuff lower down, not true correction/adjustment of existing frequencies in the desired range. which is what eq does Smile
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#74
macc Wrote:bbe isn't an exciter No

Icon_eek Oops but it is similar!

macc Wrote:it's a phase (re)alignment tool. lemme know if you need it explained, i just can't be bothered at the moment. Hahaha

Chin sounds interesting, but at this point: no Smile

macc Wrote:personally, when it comes to 'injecting' high end, i use eq. exciters (put extremely simply) are just distortion really. you get high end, but it's harmonics of stuff lower down, not true correction/adjustment of existing frequencies in the desired range. which is what eq does Smile

agreed, but it's harmonic distortion, which is supposed to sound, well ermm... more harmonic (than just boosting with an eq)

so what about the whole "boosting with eq is crap"-thing? Icon_question
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#75
Don't misinterpret what's being said Icon_exclaim No-one said 'NEVER EVER BOOST WITH EQ OR THE WORLD WILL STOP TURNING, THE SEAS WILL BOIL AND LO, THERE WILL COME A PLAGUE OF LOCUSTS TO EAT THEE!' Teef Grin



There's nothing inherently evil about boosting with eq - if anything it feels more natural to boost than cut when using eq.

The point is that it is simply a matter of fact that it is better to cut out the bits that are no good before thinking boosting anything.

Think of it like a lemon cake. If it's too bitter, is it better to put loads more sugar in, or simply not put so much lemon in in the first place? Wink
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