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do you mixdown you final bounced out tune

#1
Do you mixdown or prossece your final tunes once it is mixed down and bounced out of your daw?

if you do what do you normaly do? i know some people do this and some dont
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#2
i think what you're referring to is what's usually called the "mastering" stage. Smile


normally this involves manipulation of a mixed down audio wave for purposes of final eqing, compression and system compatability.

some people do 'rough mastering' on their own work, but most (if they're smart about it) leave it to a mastering engineer. (assuming it's going to be released)


hope that helps some.
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#3
i guess technically what i was talking about would be mastering, but that wasnt really what i meant.

i more meant simple things like adding a small amount of compression or limiting, or one last run through an eq. i guess i always imagine mastering as a much more complicated procedure.
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#4
If your cake is made of shit then there's little to be gained by icing it Smile
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#5
unless you are into scatstep Teef
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#6
Rofl
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#7
Macc Wrote:If your cake is made of shit then there's little to be gained by icing it Smile

Cakes, pies, tree branches...what next? Lol
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#8
Macc Wrote:If your cake is made of shit then there's little to be gained by icing it Smile

yea yea, i mostly wanted to post to clarify cause i felt like an idiot for the way the way i worded my first post Oops Icon_sad
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#9
I wasn't saying YOUR cake was made of shit Smile
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#10
yes sometimes a bit of hardlimiting in cooledit pro so i can play it out on CD.
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#11
Yeah man, leave the final bit to a mastering engineer if you are going to have it released. I know a good mastering dude in Seattle, but you just moved to AZ so I guess that doesn't matter. Anyways, if you aren't going to release it, or will share it for free, I'd say try mastering it yourself to at least learn it a bit. Render your tune and then use a sequencer or wave editor to apply mastering limiting/eq/etc. Or send it out to outboard gear (but that stuff costs loads so I assume you'll use software).

And ya, you can polish a turd. It'll still be a turd, but will be shiny Grin Think of it more as giving a smelly, homeless guy a shower and a sandwich.
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#12
Hahaha Hahaha Hahaha

Nice analogy, well put Grin

To put it another way, it's still a shit cake but at least it has icing cake on it Teef Teef Teef
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#13
ive been wondering bout this, cos things like ratios multiplying up etc.
if youve done all yer mixing and mastering and then send it off to someone who does more mastering isnt all the comprssion gonna make things pretty lifeless
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djfada Wrote:ive been wondering bout this, cos things like ratios multiplying up etc.
if youve done all yer mixing and mastering and then send it off to someone who does more mastering isnt all the comprssion gonna make things pretty lifeless
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#15
Baffled did you just dry quote me brah Teef
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#16
bottom line:


If the piece is intended for release, DO NOT master it yourself. (assuming you're dealing with a label or organization that will be performing mastering on it)


if you need to do some limiting/master EQing to get it hot enough to play in the club, fine. Just don't give THAT version to the M.E. Give them the raw mixdown.
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#17
^^ Yes spodz is right on the money.

most often though, it ends up being both. i have two folders, pre- and post-masters, full of rar'ed wav files. the same tunes are in both folders, but i know that if i need a clean wav for vinyl mastering i have it, and if i need a pumped up jobby for the 320 sluts, then i have that as well.



oh yeah, sorry about that fada Oops it was late and i thought i'd best not write another bloody essay...
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Macc Wrote:Oh yeah, sorry about that fada Oops It was late and I thought I'd best not write another bloody essay...

no worries man Smile

is it right compressor ratios multiply up in the mix rather than just add up tho?
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#19
Yes, but what difference does it make?

That's a serious question btw Smiley
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#20
surely if you process your bass like 3:1 in the mixdown then do a 2:1 on the full master (rough example), thats like 6:1 over all , then a mastering enginerr adds say another 2:1 thats like your bass hass been compressed at 12:1 making it shit
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#21
Macc Wrote:Yes, but what difference does it make?

That's a serious question btw Smiley

you cynical bastard Spank Rofl
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#22
No, it is a serious question. Smiley Not being cynical - I'm asking why he needs to know Smiley
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#23
macc Wrote:i'm asking why he needs to know Smiley

cos im a boring fucker i reckon Teef
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#24
i thought it was a valid point concerning this thread tho.. surely loads of compression ending up on things due to it being mastered twice (if you do self mastering before its sent away) is gonna spoil the warmth of the track
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#25
I limit/compress as i go along, so there's probably no room for the track to be mastered. Black block special.

The reason why i work like this is because:

a) I could never master my tracks so they sounded like the original
b) Tracks had to be playable in the club
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