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Raft of new stuff, geek checks, not going to bed etc

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i should have been in bed two hours ago, but i've been geek checking the raft of new stuff that's found its way to me recently... got to know what does what, eh Wink

so here's some thoughts, just so i don't forget Hahaha

waves api bundle - nice Smile pleasantly chunky-sounding, and i like the compressor (although i imagine they aren't anywhere near the hw). awkward handling though, silly knob behaviour which will take a while to get used to. worth using, although i haven't properly caned them, so time will tell...


urs channel strip pro - disappointing. perhaps i've misunderstood something, but i'd been led to believe you could drive the thing as you would a proper pre, for all manner of juicy warmth and pleasant harmonic distortion etc etc. well you can't. what you get is a selectable input stage that puts a subtle eq curve on the source according to the model you choose Neutral useful, yes, but not what i was hoping for Neutral . the eq behaves quite nicely too, with the year options giving different behaviours (same eq algorithm i think, just affects the shape of the band). the sound is okay, useable. the compressor seems okay but kills things a bit on most of the settings i tried...


waves v series - disappointing. i have to mention these in comparison to the uad plugs as they are emulations of the same (neve) devices, sorry :d. the v series eq's are alright, and i'd use them if i needed to. however for the same amount of boost as the equivalent ua plugs, they sound irritating quite quickly rather than smooth and classy. i'd use them if i couldn't use a ua version for some reason (insanity, possibly). the compressor which is supposedly a 33609 rip off is not all that, and comparisons to youknowwhat don't show it in a good light. it's a decent vst compressor, yes - but it's not a 33609.


speaking of ua plugs Teef ;

uad precision maximiser - been getting into this beasty a bit more. there's a number of configurations you can get out of it for assorted harmonic addition (limit mode is dirt), and when you work it it does smooth distortion on individual tracks (bass!!) better than most plugs i can think of. and if you use it in mastering things get very loud, very quickly.

uad helios 69 - fuckin ell Lovesmilie best top end on any plugin ever. even beats the 1073 for me, very different sound though. and when the bass band fits the source, jeebus. incredible plugin.

uad roland space echo - yeah yeah yeah, i know, but if you own this, do the '100% wet tape distortion' thing on a 220hz sine wave, and check out the view on a spectral analyser (span Xyxthumbs) as you fuck about with the input gain. just look at it!! Hyper


sorry about mentioning ua plugs on the wrong forum Teef all in the name of science Teef
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shit

reading thats going to cost me...

nice one

still just [cough]youayydee[cough] plugs installed so far

20% of maximiser still you say Chin Teef

speaking of which, someone needs to combine those two smilies.

ta
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Macc Wrote:I'd use them if I couldn't use a UA version for some reason (insanity, possibly).

Hahaha

im gonna czechs out the wave v series stuff tho, seems one of the best non uad options at the min
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i have to say that the urs channel strip pro is kiling it for me, have mixed a coupla tracks using this on everything and found it most pleasing.. but i guess horses for courses, im still drooling for some analog action..
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It's alright. Smile But still a disappointment after all the stuff I read - people were tlaking LOADS of shit about it being able to drive things etc Neutral
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Macc Wrote:UAD Helios 69 - fuckin ell Lovesmilie Best top end on any plugin ever. Even beats the 1073 for me, :

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#7
Yes

it just magically opens things up in a thoroughly majestic way. 1073 does the 'smooth shine' thing, this does 'open'. it's incredible, really. the upper mid boost knob as well, it just kills me. it's like it puts punch in, despite just being an eq.

i forgot the sonnox plugs by the way, i'll edit those in in a bit...
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cheerz maccx, havent had time to check any of em yet. cant u do a bimonthly vst-review?
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wierd cos my mate who has a pt hd rig with ALL the plugs, duende, uad and liquid mix, was using sonnox and urs over the lot... and i haveto say it sounded great!

maybe he was using the tdm verions and they really sound that much better than the au ones, but i would be suprised if that was the case..
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It's not, that's a load of hocus pocus nonsense. I read the Sonnox designer's comments the other day and he put that one to bed...

They clearly aren't as nice to my ears - though I really like the Sonnox stuff - but that's not to say you can't get great mixes with them Smile
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#11
hmm interesting, i guess it really is what you do with the stuff innit..

yea the sonnox stuff is tops, and i love the interface too.
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#12
actually you know the sonnox plugs are quite reasonably priced...

Chin
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#13
I have to buy a uad card...and a new pc to go with it.

thanks for bankrupting me Macc Icon_sad
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
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ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:I have to buy a uad card...and a new pc to go with it.

thanks for bankrupting me Macc Icon_sad

yea, macc you should get a job with uad as a salesperson ... u really know how to get people excited over these cards.
Waiting till january when my mate is gonna life stateside. order them to his address and have him smuggle them into .nl
gonna save me about 450euro on the nevana. :P
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bobule Wrote:hmm interesting, i guess it really is what you do with the stuff innit..

Yeah, true... but for me if it sounds smoother and nicer (ie better Grin) side by side and you use those throughout the mix, you'll get smoother results. Lord knows my mixes have taken on a great indefinable smoothness since getting comfortable with the UA stuff that even very decent native plugs just don't do.

That said, for clean compression the Sonalksis compressor is grrreat. I want UA to make a super nice clean single band compressor, then it's all over. Grin

Quote:yea the sonnox stuff is tops, and i love the interface too.

The enhance section of the limiter in particular is a JOY - although I really don't like the limit section itself at all. Horrible IMO. Need to use the eq a bit more to really sound it out though...
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what do you think about the inflator? you runnign these native? ... i so wish i had a licence for them!!
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bobule Wrote:what do you think about the inflator? you runnign these native? ... i so wish i had a licence for them!!

thought i was in the fuck love thread for a minute there

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Hahaha
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bobule Wrote:what do you think about the inflator? you runnign these native? ... i so wish i had a licence for them!!

Inflator's cool, man Grin

It's essentially exactly the same as Precision Maximiser (or rather the other way, PM is an Inflator clone), although they generate slightly different harmonics. Plus PM has the soft saturation thing which allows even more grit (can't recall if inflator has it or not). Well good for mastering, and done in moderation with plenty of bypass action you can get a LOT of signal out of it Icon_eek

Running them native using the *ahem* unlicensed versions. But we don't discuss all that here.
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#20
Nono Hahaha
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