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Anyway, still on topic. I watched this fight back after many years of it first being shown on the BBC (2004).

Then IBO World Cruiserweight Champion Carl Thompson stopping a very impressive David Haye for the first time in his career. Haye was touted to win this fight;

Thompson 13 years later is 53 years old now.

Here is the all-hands adaptation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oq4SqhpSd8

Boxing fact: "Adrian" is Carl "The Cat" Thompson first line of address.

Carl changed his name because it wasn't deemed grisly enough.
Well impressed with the gutsy roughouse style of Stephen Tiffany against Troy James repeated on BN right now. Before the Sam Sexton win over Gary Cornish for the British title defence.
I think David Haye will neatly fold Tony Bellew in the rematch saga. Providing his body holds up of course. Bellew almost punched himself out last time.

Ready to watch the crap hit the fan.
I bought two books on boxing yesterday.

Steve Bunce - The Fixer (novel).
Ricky Hatton- Vegas Tales.
TFC Area Title - Sami  Salem vs. Romaine Porter

This is a pretty landmark record for me. Check it out on YouTube. Screened by www.maaction.com
Deontay Wilder Vs. Luis Ortiz

A hard one to call on paper, but in action I predicted Deontay in under 5 to KO Ortiz. Ortiz is too old, and too out of action. Either way, it's Deontay's best fight since Gerald Washington.

What The Experts Think Will Happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVXdOhxH0Y
Roy Jones Jnr 50th pro boxing contest

Picking up the WBU Cruiserweight title as a nice farewell in a competitive outpointing exercise on 8th February 18.

Anthony Yarde vs Tony Alvern

Much more competitive fight for The Beast Yarde, only stopping this chap complete because of corner retirement from body shots at the end of round seven.
Just picked up a 2009 Ufc dvd with five hours of footage from fights across the Ultimate Fighter franchise. Cannot wait to open it up.
Hiya guys n gals. Not touched down in this thread for a few months. Time for an update.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2018/05/2...wbss-final

Good story here. Eubank Smith equals boring fight.
Tyson Fury meanwhile is talking way too much for my liking. Those who brag, do not know. Vice versa also.
I also find a glaring omission in that Deontay technically got knocked out on his feet by Ortiz yet people are counting on Deontay as being a Joshua beater. Fact is 4 years ago nobody heavyweight wanted to face Ortiz. But they look to the pumped up muscle men for advice.
Top-drawer Commonwealth Title Eliminator action watched tonight. A tremendous 12 round middleweight blitzkrieg between Kyrouge Daydan and Ben Savva.
Terence Crawford Vs Jeff Horn. Easy contender for fight of the year.
This weekend sees Tyson Fury make his 2nd appearance back on our screens in Carl Frampton undercard. Should be interesting, hopefully.
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SV Progression 317: December's main fight attraction; Tyson Fury Vs Deontay Wilder

On Deontay Wilder Vs Tyson Fury: a heavenly heavyweight matchup which could go the distance. Tyson is walking the talk, so don't condemn him! Even if you don't like Fury (there are subjective reasons not to) he is putting the work in, while some of his so called fans are trashing the comments on social media with inane claptrap. "Crack smoker, washed up, fights bums" - so what, you little trolling gremlins? These gremlins troll boxers and celeb personalities all over the internet, so I wouldn't worry. Many whom have never fought at least amateur in a ring before. Get your facts straight before you rant on to a professional boxer about how bad he is, unless you're joking. You never know, you might just get lucky and get a punch on the nose yourself.

Tyson Fury has two options, he knows it and so do the watchful eyes. He can do to Deontay what he did to Klitschko: hit and not be hit for 12 rounds. Or, he can try and wear Wilder down, and force a stoppage in around rd 6. I've analysed Deontay's resume, he starts open, goes into his shell around rounds four to seven, wakes up again if his opponent is still there (Luis Ortiz could have TKO'd him in round 7 of their pairing), and then uses training smarts to try and close the fight. The problem with trying his usual game plan against someone like Tyson Fury is 1) Tyson for once is the bigger man, two inches taller than Wilder, and 2) Throwing windmills, as Anthony Joshua put it only gets you so far. Once you're put in with fast fluid and stronger opposition than Wilder (he's only 16 stone) then he's going to have problems. The only issues for Tyson Fury are ring rust and motivation, but Deontay could be argued to have had those throughout his entire career. Of course, Wilder's right hand is dynamite, but he only uses his jab as a paw, and to set up a right hook, also noteworthy.

Deontay's been defeated 5 times in the amateurs, and knocked out once in the pros. The KO percentage on his undefeated record is just that: boxers, if they feel undefeated (ie not back to the drawing board) still win their fight, because they won an opponent to fight. This is part of the bookmaker's journalism fix. Deontay's been knocking out people who either never got going, so he capitalised on it (see: Audley Harrison) or low level opposition, regardless of WBC rank (see Dominic Breazeale, not yet fought, whom Joshua jolted into submission). I make a prediction that Tyson Fury wins this fight on points, taking Wilder the embarrassing distance for the first time proper in his career. Bermane Stiverne did it to contend the WBC title he lost, and going the full 12 is also the only official way that "the fight" inside the ring is controlled enough for Tyson Fury to win for a full twelve rounds. Only boxers or martial artists who have fought will understand that bit - if a fighter is cut, i.e the action is cut because they get stopped or KO'd, but both boxers want to continue, then the match is halted, the film reels are sown up, and like after editing, the remainder video for the big screen is a stitch of the best bits.

Personally, I'd also like Fury to win more, just because despite all his controversial remarks over the years in the media, from anti-Semitism, racism, evangelism, bigotry, you name it, he's less of a corrupt dickhead. Anyone (Deontay Wilder) who can throw barbs like "I hope your son will be at the fight [to Dominic Breazeale] so he can look me in the eye as the man about to cripple his Daddy" on social media and in real life, with only a "forgive me for all I may have caused hurt to" on his Twitter after he got called out, presents him as a class A moron who needs his head examined at all costs.

This could be fight of the year, or it could be most disappointing brawl of the century, who knows. Or Wilder will just deck him.

Your choice, Tyson. Go get wilder, or get a career screwdriver.

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On my boxing feeds this week...

Jermall Charlo V Gennady Golovkin
News of a possible Wilder shoulder injury?
Canelo planned to fight again in December
Amir Khan V Kell Brook little headway
Lawrence Okolie stinking Wembley out
Anthony Joshua adaptive stance to southpaw
I don't know if there's a point of Floyd Mayweather coming out of retirement for the third time.

The only thing it does is cement his ego. 

Floyd is NOT an all time martial arts great. He's lead a charmed life of money fights and has a material attitude to life in general: throwaway, shallow and infertile, like his last five pound note.
Recommended: HatmanStrikesBack Youtube channel. Boxing insights and commentary.
Also: BoxingSphere YouTube channel.
Boxing insights and commentary.
I surf the net for updates further than I watch BoxNation in a inclusive world package.

A cool search I thought to do today was "latest middleweight boxing", which brought up, yes, the usual KO and hype vids, but also some top middleweights montages who are pretty fresh.

I stopped my short fighting spell at middleweight - I realised I didn't like getting hit as much as I didn't like dishing it out. I'm not a bully or coward, it just wasn't for me.

The sport, however, remains something I can talk the hind leg off a impulse generator about.
This post of my "sober as needed" opinion...I've been thinking about what to say about this topic for a while, my favourite part of MMA as opposed to boxing.
I conclude in two sentences, the only reason I like MMA (not "Glory" or "UFC", UFC has become a gobbing off blood sport, and Glory is a glory hunting joke - try MMA Hub K1 or Bellator on Channel 5 instead for decent stuff) as in kick boxing more than boxing, is because it's a) not open to the deathly damage of the octagon "fight to the death ethic" which has slurried public perception of martial arts and respect, and b) as a result/corollary of this, kick boxing in MMA (mixed martial arts) concept has stayed true to its grass roots.

In three sentences, it's why I've always liked small venue shows for Muaythai and kb like I fought in in my short 3 important fight career, because 1. the fighters are kept better protected, and 2) it's not about money...money was never in my mind when becoming a entertainment complex fighter for a spell, it was never in any of the club's mind, because really, there was no money in it. Now there's this negotiating smokescreen brought in from boxing pay per view nonsense, which is totally pointless really, just greed, that only channels like BN (BoxNation) and DAZN are worth watching, paradoxically, because the "only punching imagery" and boxing framework is built on having fighters with big purses to offer the fighter. Whether they have anything else to offer, like a good scrap, per se, is another matter entirely. And you know how I love to watch a good dust up.

I can't complain, and this isn't a complaint, it's just an opinion.

Personally, there are other elements at work, like the fact I can only really watch boxing now, there's also MMA on my subscription etc, because punches are a lot less dangerous than kicks, and kick boxing hence will always be the secondary sport. It is for me too, because boxing was my first love. Boxing, kick boxing and football, in that order, thank you please.
Shades of the past, you can put the pieces together of my and friends histories.

The best overall ruleset for fighting chess, to me, was always K1. In Japan, that was the real precursor to Ultimate Fighting Championship. Franz Botha, who outboxed Tyson in his later career until getting knocked out, participated. Many martial artists. Simply: traditional kickboxing, core kickboxing, and nothing else. With good referees, matches and judges.
My third fight in alternative reality was against someone who had been on Eurosport K1 afaik, which was a big coup for me, because I told my trainer I loved "Mr. Jazz Feet" who was actually 18 (I was 15). Maybe it wasn't him, but I know differently. I don't live in the real world, I don't exist, for that matter, but that's just a spiritual ide that runs through my veins like treacle.
So I've had a free UFC Fight Pass on YouTube since I cancelled my BT Sport subscription, basically to tape UFC, because I'm in sleep mode come broadcasting time at home.

I don't know if other people can get their fix of UFC Free Fight, but if not, the subscription is only £5-7.99 a month or something anyways.

This is a decent tussle while it lasted; Derek Brunson unlucky here, good to watch the science behind this tape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USVnAQOiMHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj49A5xnP9I

Good selection of brutal UFC highlights, UFC tape 235.
Shame Ant Crolla got knocked out vs Lomachenko, but he's taken it well...and Vasyl broke his hand with that punch apparently. Crolla has at least fought the best.
It was interesting if frustrating to watch the Mr T "I'm the best" female impersonation from black athlete boxer Claressa Shields dismantling Christine Hammer over ten rounds. Shields reminds me of a female Joshua or Wilder for aggression and power.

Interestingly enough, Jarrell Miller has been caught using performance enhancing drugs before fighting Joshua on June 1st...why do they do it? Very dumb, especially since they know they will be tested. So to date, per a RT, everyone except Anthony Joshua has ducked him or failed a drugs test against him who hasn't fought him yet, including Dillian Whyte apparently. It would be great if Pulev or Ortiz step up, although Ortiz bar a miracle would get sent into early retirement, while Pulev would be very interesting I think.

Styles make fights and this collection of data has stylistically compatible matches.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lat...&FORM=VIRE

A solid, interesting display of static / sub-stasis choreography in the first round of this, very nice leg movements with lack of clinching
Tyson Fury has apparently sought the advice of Micky Ward from about 15 years ago for his work with Miguel Cotto for continuing his boxing career, rather than retiring from it as previously leaked.

It is hard to sum up what Ward might think, but I imagine it's along the lines of "you already beat Wilder, just go for money fights because you've had a undisputed status, even if the lineal idea is a joke, you've done it all and you've still not had a bad loss. And that is highly commendable with your career since you have a better career resume than Deontay Wilder, to name one example. There is a lot of bad eggs out there in a sea of good eggs - sexuality talk aside, you just have to pick a good one. A good egg - and hence fighter - makes good boxing, and a lot more money. That has to be better than sniffing around the cocaine pot again, or becoming a lost cause. You're the people's champion anyway; just don't let fame and yesmen blow your head".

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