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Olivier Messiaen anyone?

#1
"my faith is the grand drama of my life. i'm a believer, so i sing words of god to those who have no faith. i give bird songs to those who dwell in cities and have never heard them, make rhythms for those who know only military marches or jazz, and paint colours for those who see none".

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#2
another non-dnb music thread bites the dust

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#3
is he that french guy that's engaged to Kylie Minogue & is in the movie Unfaithful?
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#4
messiaen = Yes Falcon

can you play the organ statto?
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alpha omega Wrote:is he that french guy that's engaged to kylie minogue & is in the movie unfaithful?
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ufo_over_easy Wrote:messiaen = Yes Falcon

can you play the organ statto?
No

but with creative fingering i can play some of the organ things on the piano

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statto Wrote:
alpha omega Wrote:is he that french guy that's engaged to kylie minogue & is in the movie unfaithful?
Roll Hahaha

ufo_over_easy Wrote:messiaen = Yes Falcon

can you play the organ statto?
No

but with creative fingering i can play some of the organ things on the piano

Twothumbs

i'd love to be able to play the organ, just because on a decent one you can make such fucking huge noises on them Smile beastly!

anyway yeah, you all need to listen to messiaen. now.
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#7
links?!
Co..Cou...Could you possibly rewind and come again?
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#8
http://www.slsknet.org

There's not going to be any clips of Messiaen anywhere, and bad sound quality wouldn't do him justice. You really need to listen to the chords and progressions over and over to get an idea of what he was really trying to do. It's total headfuck music, but once you've got it, you feel like king of the earth Smile
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#9
really?

sounds interesting.......although I hope he's just not another Phillip Glass wannabee?
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ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:really?

sounds interesting.......although I hope he's just not another Phillip Glass wannabee?

Phillip Glass is shitty minimalism, and about three quarters of a century after Messiaen, who is without doubt the definitive modern keyboard composer.
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ufo_over_easy Wrote:phillip glass is shitty minimalism, and about three quarters of a century after messiaen, who is without doubt the definitive modern keyboard composer.

quality post Xyxthumbs
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woops.......excuse me.
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ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:woops.......excuse me.

You are excused my good man Smile
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#14
superb.

big up the non dnb related threads massive.......
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#15
If anyone has some webspace we could put up some Messiaen classics?
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#16
I like.

Catalogue d'oiseaux is good, quartet for the end of time is mad and you can get a cd of his solo piano music on naxos for about £5, it's wicked.
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Statto and his creative fingering again ........ Roll
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#18
If you like modern classical piano music, check out this guy:

http://alexis.ano.free.fr/Mompou.html

federico mompou - spanish composer a bit influenced by ravel, but also by more modern stuff.
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I like Mompou, because a lot of his stuff is great and also quite easy to play. Like grade 5 standard or so Smile
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Altered Ego Wrote:Statto and his creative fingering again ........ Roll

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benj b Wrote:catalogue d'oiseaux is good
favourite stuff Xyxthumbs

benj b Wrote:quartet for the end of time is mad
never really got into this Neutral

benj b Wrote:you can get a cd of his solo piano music on naxos for about £5
who's the pianist?

other favourites...

vingt regards sur l'enfant jésus (piano)
les corps glorieux (organ)
la nativité du seigneur (organ)
trois petites liturgies de la présence divine (choir & orchestra)
fêtes des belles eaux (ondes martenot sextet)

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#22
Statto Wrote:
benj b Wrote:you can get a cd of his solo piano music on naxos for about £5
who's the pianist?

A geezer called Hakon Austbo, who is norwegian.

If you're into piano music and chromaticism, and maybe jazz, you would probably like this french geezer Martial Solal:

http://www.jazzpar.dk/Prize_Winners/martial_solal.html
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statto Wrote:"my faith is the grand drama of my life. i'm a believer, so i sing words of god to those who have no faith. i give bird songs to those who dwell in cities and have never heard them, make rhythms for those who know only military marches or jazz, and paint colours for those who see none".

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blah blah!!!! where's me happy hardcore tape?!????
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#24
Hi,
I just subbed, but I have been watching this board for a long time. This thread did it for me though. I am very glad to see a great, but sadly underrespected, composer being discussed.

Quartet for the End of Time is good, but hard to get into. You are better off checking the two best parts of that entitled "Louange A L'Eternite De Jesus" and "Louange A L'lmmortalite De Jesus" first. It is very dark, but this was actually composed and perfomed whilst he was in a concentration camp during WWII. I think that puts it in perspective and the music carrys a lot of power. I must warn you again though, it isn't easy on the earsSmile

The piece that started me off with Messiaen was Vocalise and that will change you. It is outerspace music. Actually, I think you should get that first if you've never heard Messiaen. You will notice structures in that piece that you find in recent minimal techno. The repetition and then the way it just goes all over the place. The guy can make you feel 2 emotions at once.

The pianist that worked most with him towards the end was a woman called Yvonne Loriod and she continued to work with him right up until his death in the 80's.

More recently, I've been into Gavin Bryars, particularly a piece for organ and soprano called The Black River (only available on this CD: http://www.ecmrecords.com/ecm/recordings/1495.html) . Also, there is a thing very recently by Murcof called Ulysses on the Leaf label that continues the ideology behind the work of composers like Messiaen and Schoenberg (also another visionary in the world of minimal, dissonance and 12TET) for me. It is minimal techno, but it's deep, man...

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#25
Naphta Wrote:Blah Blah!!!! Where's me Happy Hardcore tape?!????

Oops soon come Oops
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