WHAT DOES THE FUTURE REALLY HOLD?

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i realise it's one of the more accessible & coherent albums by a dnb artist of late...an album that makes sense...it's simply good music and it has a distinctive vibe!
how can he better his 1st album? by going even broader imo, even more mature...flexing even more different styles, i reckon he really can!!!
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:& yeah Code there's loads of questions because there's loads of topics to be covered.

Baffled

Okay...

sorrrrrrrr-ry!

Was only slaggin'...

On Pieter K's LP - that and Danny Breaks "Vibrations" are the two best "proper artist" D&B LP's since Sonar Circles "Radius" and AO's"Journey to the Ninth Level" back in '99 on Reinforced."
If you get the cd version of the pieter k album, you'll see there are a couple of dubby techno tracks on there, and even on the LP there are some very jazzy broken beat numbers... that's pretty diverse mate.
pieter is close to god Yes
code Wrote:on pieter k's lp - that and danny breaks "vibrations" are the two best d&b lp's since sonar circle and ao's lp's back in '99 on reinforced.

agreed
i think our musical tastes are quite a like mr code Xyxthumbs
If anyone can Pieter can

Wink
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
Code Wrote:On Pieter K's LP - that and Danny Breaks "Vibrations" are the two best D&B LP's since Sonar Circle and AO's LP's back in '99 on Reinforced.

I think you're right. And that's quite a compliment Smile Shame those two reinforced LP's were so underappreciated. I haven't been able to track down vinyl versions of either of them, so I think I'll have to get them on CD from the dollis store... Icon_cry
i agree, about vibrations and everything all the time, they are...

i was steering to another point (think you got me wrong): making a big impact on the general public just with genious music with a dnb vibe...like timeless or in the mode or jacobs optical stairway album etc.
maybe that is impossible without help from majors (dunno?)...but no one of my friends who are just into good music not dnb specific have either pieter k's album or danny breaks album... see where i'm getting at? it's wishfull thinking maybe and veryvery ambitious, i know Baffled

wasn't criticising pieter k's album at all, again Wink
Code Wrote:Okay...

sorrrrrrrr-ry!

Was only slaggin'...

On Pieter K's LP - that and Danny Breaks "Vibrations" are the two best "proper artist" D&B LP's since Sonar Circles "Radius" and AO's"Journey to the Ninth Level" back in '99 on Reinforced."


I like your tastes sir

Hugs
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
UFO_over_easy Wrote:If you get the cd version of the pieter k album, you'll see there are a couple of dubby techno tracks on there, and even on the LP there are some very jazzy broken beat numbers... that's pretty diverse mate.

now that's a good point you made here...that's what i'm talkin about...maybe my view on things is a bit wrong cos i don't buy electronic music on cd, only vinyl

might get my brother that cd then for christmas Cool
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:
Code Wrote:Okay...

sorrrrrrrr-ry!

Was only slaggin'...

On Pieter K's LP - that and Danny Breaks "Vibrations" are the two best "proper artist" D&B LP's since Sonar Circles "Radius" and AO's"Journey to the Ninth Level" back in '99 on Reinforced."


I like your tastes sir

Hugs

Gimme a copy of journey to the ninth level you slag! :P
I know what you're saying Karbon and really I think this goes back to what AO referred to as "a lost opportunity"... back in the mid ninties, D&B almost had the music industry by the balls! (Cojones, if you will...). The music press was picking up on just how far you could take music within the D&B framework... but producers didn't manage to strike while the iron was hot and so now you have LP's like Pieter K's and Danny Breaks going unnoticed, just as Sonar Circle's and AO's were ignored in '99...

It's almost like we have to start again... alot of ground has been lost.
cheers for the smiley fixup Statto

Smile
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:cheers for the smiley fixup Statto

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UFO_over_easy Wrote:
ALPHA OMEGA Wrote:
Code Wrote:Okay...

sorrrrrrrr-ry!

Was only slaggin'...

On Pieter K's LP - that and Danny Breaks "Vibrations" are the two best "proper artist" D&B LP's since Sonar Circles "Radius" and AO's"Journey to the Ninth Level" back in '99 on Reinforced."


I like your tastes sir

Hugs

Gimme a copy of journey to the ninth level you slag! :P

I will!

Can do tape or minidisc... if you want a CD, I'll have to take the LP to a mate's house so he can burn it... PM me yer address and tell me what format ya want...

Note... AO don't read this.
Code Wrote:I know what you're saying Karbon and really I think this goes back to what AO referred to as "a lost opportunity"... back in the mid ninties, D&B almost had the music industry by the balls! (Cojones, if you will...). The music press was picking up on just how far you could take music within the D&B framework... but producers didn't manage to strike while the iron was hot and so now you have LP's like Pieter K's and Danny Breaks going unnoticed, just as Sonar Circle's and AO's were ignored in '99...

It's almost like we have to start again... alot of ground has been lost.

indeed, start again... cycles of 10 years and all that Neutral wouldn't that be a cool thing for 2004 (won't happen obviously)

if you look at timeless and in the mode, these albums had real 'hits' on them...i'm not sure that the reason why vibrations or everything all the time don't have hits on them is because the dnb environment is now so different or because the tunes don't really have hit potential??? i guess the answer is somewhere in the middle... watch it: when i'm talking about hits i'm talking about hits with the general public...those albums definately got 'hits' on em for me personally Smile

damn, i used the word 'hit' alot in this post didn't i?! Teef
I can answer why there are no "hits" on the Pieter K and Danny Breaks LP's easily... VOCALS - there are none!
there'll be no double copying of my lp!

& yeah more GOOD vocals please.

I would luv to work with vocalist for my new lp but

1)They cost money
2)They're troublesome Divas who think they're shit don't stink
3)I don't have a dedicated vocal booth so not sure how the bathroom will make the vocals sound
4)I luv making too much excuses & just need to do it.
5)I hate mediocre or below average singers who think they're the dogs bollox
'There's no such thing as selling out just buying in'

Chuck D
Code Wrote:I can answer why there are no "hits" on the Pieter K and Danny Breaks LP's easily... VOCALS - there are none!

nail on the head!!! what i was thinking too...
mega talented producers please take note!!! AO, i'm looking at you Wink

man i just love vocals and i do think they add A FUCKING LOT!!!! Cool
UFO try this http://www.dollisonline.co.uk/
To be honest - I think vocals would have ruined the Pieter K and Danny Break's albums! I'm just imagining vocal's over some of the tunes and I don't think I'd be too into it! Maybe if it was somebody etheral like Bjork singing on Pieter's LP it wouldn't be too bad...

I have a vocal track by Pieter that is good and I think he's working on more? Could be wrong there though...
john doe Wrote:
code Wrote:on pieter k's lp - that and danny breaks "vibrations" are the two best d&b lp's since sonar circle and ao's lp's back in '99 on reinforced.

agreed
i think our musical tastes are quite a like mr code Xyxthumbs

looking forward to hearing the stuff on your label then!
code Wrote:i will!

can do tape or minidisc... if you want a cd, i'll have to take the lp to a mate's house so he can burn it... pm me yer address and tell me what format ya want...

note... ao don't read this.

that's ok man, i'm really looking for the vinyl. i don't think i'm going to have any luck though, so i'll get it on cd from the dollis hill site. it's only a fiver from there Xyxthumbs
Code Wrote:To be honest - I think vocals would have ruined the Pieter K and Danny Break's albums! I'm just imagining vocal's over some of the tunes and I don't think I'd be too into it! Maybe if it was somebody etheral like Bjork singing on Pieter's LP it wouldn't be too bad...

I have a vocal track by Pieter that is good and I think he's working on more? Could be wrong there though...

imo writing tunes and then just putting vocals on em is not the way to make good (vocal) tunes... i'm sure if pieter would have included vocal tunes he would've really written 'vocal tunes', nowhatimean?

i'm blown away by pieter's album, and i like it just the way it is...

just wish to see someone make a QUALITY album that could break some ground with an even broader audience (i.e. not that watered down shy fx shite), good vocal tunes could help...

then again, on the other hand albums like boards of canada's 'music has the right to children' have been able to hit a big audience too, without vocals...
Definitely - if either of them guys wrote music with a vocal in mind, I'm sure it would be good.

I dunno, it's gonna take alot for D&B to regain what foothold it had in the public psyche...

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